Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

02/21/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:33:53 PM Start
01:35:05 PM Overview: Fy 2024 Budget by Department of Public Safety
02:54:07 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 39 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 41 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY 2024 Budget by TELECONFERENCED
Department of Public Safety -
Commissioner James Cockrell and Pam Halloran,
Administrative Services Director
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 21, 2023                                                                                          
                         1:33 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 1:33 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Bryan  Barlow,  Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of  Public                                                                    
Safety; James  Cockrell, Commissioner, Department  of Public                                                                    
Safety;  Pam  Halloran,  Administrative  Services  Director,                                                                    
Department  of  Public  Safety,  Office  of  Management  and                                                                    
Budget, Office of the Governor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB  39    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          HB 39 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  41    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 39 was HEARD and  HELD in committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: FY 2024 BUDGET BY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 39                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 41                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: FY 2024 BUDGET BY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES COCKRELL,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,                                                                    
introduced  the  PowerPoint   presentation,  "Department  of                                                                    
Public  Safety  FY2024  Department  Budget  Overview"  dated                                                                    
February 21, 2023  (copy on file). He began  by thanking the                                                                    
committee  for  hearing  the presentation  and  thanked  the                                                                    
members   of  the   Department   of   Public  Safety   (DPS)                                                                    
subcommittee.  He  thought  the subcommittee  meetings  were                                                                    
open and  productive. After  years of  budget cuts,  DPS was                                                                    
making  strides  forwards  thanks to  the  legislature.  The                                                                    
department was given more resources  in the prior year which                                                                    
had turned into new positions  within DPS. The overall crime                                                                    
rate  in   the  state   was  down  significantly   and  drug                                                                    
enforcement  agents  were  busy intercepting  contraband  at                                                                    
airports,  ferry  docks,  and  other  areas  throughout  the                                                                    
state. The  department had hired two  investigators to focus                                                                    
directly on  missing and murdered indigenous  people and had                                                                    
revitalized  the   Village  Public  Safety   Officer  (VPSO)                                                                    
program. He relayed that DPS  was also moving forward with a                                                                    
body camera  program and it  hoped to have the  Alaska State                                                                    
Troopers  (AST)  equipped with  cameras  by  the summer.  He                                                                    
thought  the cameras  would  increase transparency,  instill                                                                    
trust  in  the  citizens  of  the  state,  and  protect  the                                                                    
troopers. He  hoped that the department  and the legislature                                                                    
could  continue  making  improvements and  make  Alaska  the                                                                    
safest state in the nation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell began  on slide 2 of the  presentation. When he                                                                    
took over the department a few  years prior, his goal was to                                                                    
ensure that DPS's mandate was  met, which was to recruit and                                                                    
retain  the best  troopers,  VPSOs,  and administrative  and                                                                    
technical  staff.   He  relayed  that  the   department  was                                                                    
particularly attentive to rural  areas of the state. Another                                                                    
primary  focus was  the  high level  of  sexual assault  and                                                                    
domestic violence in  the state as it still  had the highest                                                                    
rates  per capita  in the  nation. The  department was  also                                                                    
focused on  major crime investigations  including homicides,                                                                    
assaults, and drug investigations.  There were currently 982                                                                    
permanent full-time  staff and 12 permanent  part-time staff                                                                    
at DPS.  He explained  that the  part-time staff  focused on                                                                    
particular  problems or  cases. The  current DPS  budget was                                                                    
just under $300 million.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  moved to  slide 3  and detailed  the statewide                                                                    
impact  of  the department.  He  thought  the Department  of                                                                    
Administration  (DOA) was  the  only department  that had  a                                                                    
larger impact on  the state than DPS. He  explained that DPS                                                                    
provided  law enforcement  patrol and  investigations around                                                                    
the  state as  well as  first rate  resource protection.  He                                                                    
reiterated  the  department's  focus on  domestic  violence,                                                                    
sexual assault, and victim services  programs. He added that                                                                    
DPS  also provided  special  patrols,  performed search  and                                                                    
rescue  activities, and  managed  the  Alaska Public  Safety                                                                    
Information Network (APSIN).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell  advanced  to  slide   4  which  detailed  the                                                                    
organizational system within the department.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson asked for more  information on the division                                                                    
directors and  the number  of years  the directors  had been                                                                    
with the department.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded that the  colonel for AST was Maurice                                                                    
Hughes, who  had been with  the troopers for over  30 years.                                                                    
The  colonel  for the  Alaska  Wildlife  Troopers (AWT)  was                                                                    
Bernard  Chastain,  who had  been  with  the department  for                                                                    
about 25 years. The Fire  and Life Safety (FLS) director was                                                                    
Lloyd Nakano, who  had been with the department  for over 20                                                                    
years. The interim director of  the VPSO program was retired                                                                    
Colonel Joel Hard who worked  for the department for over 20                                                                    
years and also spent around  20 years with the National Park                                                                    
Service.  The director  of Administrative  Services was  Pam                                                                    
Halloran and  he was  uncertain how long  she had  been with                                                                    
the department.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAM HALLORAN,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF PUBLIC  SAFETY, OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT AND  BUDGET, OFFICE                                                                    
OF  THE  GOVERNOR,  stated  that   she  had  been  with  the                                                                    
department since June of 2022.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell added that  the aforementioned individuals were                                                                    
all of the division directors.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson understood that  most of the directors were                                                                    
close to retirement age.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell  confirmed  that   most  of  the  department's                                                                    
command staff were eligible for retirement.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz   referred   to  slide   2   of   the                                                                    
presentation. He asked if there had  been a study on how the                                                                    
consolidation  of  dispatch   services  had  contributed  to                                                                    
accomplishing the department's key  objective to improve law                                                                    
enforcement and safety in rural Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell responded  that there  were still  significant                                                                    
strides  to be  made  when it  came  to providing  emergency                                                                    
services  to  rural  areas  of the  state.  There  were  two                                                                    
dispatch  centers, one  in Mat-Su  and one  in Kenai,  which                                                                    
provided  professional  support  in  the  two  regions.  The                                                                    
department  was  still   struggling  to  establish  adequate                                                                    
dispatch   services  in   areas  of   Western  Alaska.   The                                                                    
department was  working with phone companies  to upgrade the                                                                    
cell phone towers  to increase the range of  service for 911                                                                    
calls. He  relayed that the  process would  take cooperation                                                                    
from DPS and the telecommunication companies.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  asked how  many  911  calls in  rural                                                                    
Alaska were dropped.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded  that he had been told that  up to 25                                                                    
percent of calls were dropped.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran continued on slide  5 reflecting the governor's                                                                    
amended  FY 24  budget  request, which  was almost  $300,000                                                                    
with the supplemental included. The  total request was a $14                                                                    
million increase over  the FY 23 management  plan. She noted                                                                    
that there were many factors  that contributed to the budget                                                                    
request.  The  goal  was  to   align  the  budget  with  the                                                                    
expenditures  as  they  occurred, focusing  on  meeting  the                                                                    
rising  costs   related  to   fleet  vehicles   and  funding                                                                    
positions that were either underfunded  or unfunded. She was                                                                    
brought  on in  June of  2022  and came  from another  state                                                                    
agency that  was similar  to DPS  and she  knew what  it was                                                                    
like to  work within a  reactive agency. She was  working to                                                                    
establish   controls   and   transparency   in   regard   to                                                                    
expenditures.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  asked  for more  information  on  the                                                                    
"other" category on slide 5.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran responded that the  funds in the other category                                                                    
referred   to  interagency   authority.  Additionally,   the                                                                    
Council on Domestic Violence and  Sexual Assault (CDVSA) and                                                                    
the Violent Crimes Compensation  Board (VCCB) received other                                                                    
funds in the form of restorative justice funds.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   asked  if  the  other   funds  also                                                                    
included     the    collaboration     between    DPS     and                                                                    
telecommunication  companies.  Hearing  that 25  percent  of                                                                    
calls  [911]  were dropped  helped  her  understand why  the                                                                    
state had high rates of domestic violence.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran responded  in the  negative.  The other  funds                                                                    
were specifically  used by agencies  to provide  services to                                                                    
each other  and any telecommunication services  would not be                                                                    
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked where  the funding would need to                                                                    
be    in   order    to    facilitate   collaboration    with                                                                    
telecommunication entities and strengthen the system.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  responded that the  funding on the  state side                                                                    
was not  the issue.  The issue  was the  amount of  money it                                                                    
would cost  the telecommunication  companies to  advance the                                                                    
cell  towers  to be  "phase  II"  compliant. The  department                                                                    
could not force  compliance, but he thought  there should be                                                                    
an  obligation on  the companies'  part to  provide adequate                                                                    
communications  to ensure  Alaskans  in rural  areas of  the                                                                    
state had reliable access to 911 services.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked how the legislature  could help                                                                    
encourage  the  telecommunication companies  to  collaborate                                                                    
with the department to  deliver important emergency services                                                                    
to every Alaskan.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  commented that  there was  a large  sum of                                                                    
money for  broadband services that  would soon be  coming to                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:51:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  for  clarification  about  the                                                                    
unfunded positions  mentioned by  Ms. Halloran. He  asked if                                                                    
there were salary savings from the unfunded positions.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran  responded  that   the  supplemental  was  not                                                                    
covering   payroll.  There   were   two   elements  in   the                                                                    
supplemental bill:  the first  was the  supplemental itself,                                                                    
which addressed the anticipated cost  overages in FY 23; the                                                                    
second  was the  ratification, which  covered cost  overages                                                                    
that the  department was  unable to  address because  it ran                                                                    
out of  budget authority  in FY  22, which  included funding                                                                    
payroll.  The   supplemental  was  primarily   covering  the                                                                    
travel, services, and commodities lines.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  understood that  there was  a specific                                                                    
request in  the supplemental  due to overtime  hours worked.                                                                    
He thought positions  that were funded and  not filled would                                                                    
incur salary  savings that could  be used to  cover overtime                                                                    
expenses. He  asked if the  funding request was  in addition                                                                    
to the savings.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran  responded that positions that  were not funded                                                                    
would  fall  under the  personal  service  line item.  There                                                                    
would be  no savings  without budget authority.  She offered                                                                    
to walk the committee through the supplemental.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp declined the offer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:54:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  relayed that he was  told that DPS                                                                    
was  billing a  sister  agency. He  asked  which agency  the                                                                    
department was billing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran responded  that the  departments were  billing                                                                    
each  other   and  the  various  divisions   were  providing                                                                    
services  to each  other. For  example, CDVSA  provided some                                                                    
funding  to AST  to assist  with domestic  violence training                                                                    
and awareness for troopers. Similar  to DOA, DPS charged its                                                                    
divisions  for  administrative   services  provided  by  the                                                                    
commissioner's   office.   The   department   also   had   a                                                                    
Reimbursable  Service Agreement  (RSA) with  the courts  and                                                                    
with corrections.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked  if the ratification referred                                                                    
to  a   new  Public  Safety  Employees   Association  (PSEA)                                                                    
contract.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran responded  that the  ratification was  part of                                                                    
the  supplemental  bill.  It provided  a  mechanism  through                                                                    
which  the  department could  capture  costs  that were  not                                                                    
captured  in FY  22  because expenditures  had exceeded  the                                                                    
department's authorization.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  responded that  he heard  from FLS                                                                    
that  it  could  receive   emergency  declarations  and  the                                                                    
governor  could  unilaterally   make  withdrawals  from  the                                                                    
treasury for  funding. He understood  that DPS did  not have                                                                    
the  same option  and that  the  department had  outstanding                                                                    
bills that needed to be ratified.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran responded  that  Representative Josephson  was                                                                    
correct in that there  were outstanding bills. The employees                                                                    
of the  department were essentially  paid in FY 22,  but the                                                                    
accounting system did  not allow for the  expenditures to go                                                                    
through. The ratification process  allowed the department to                                                                    
come before the legislature  and request an appropriation to                                                                    
fund the expenditures.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran continued  on  slide 6  and  detailed the  FLS                                                                    
Division. She explained that the  division included the Plan                                                                    
Review Bureau,  the Life and  Safety Inspection  Bureau, the                                                                    
Bureau of  Accreditation Standards and Time,  and the Alaska                                                                    
Fire  Standards  Council.  The division  performed  building                                                                    
inspections and  plan reviews and worked  closely with VPSOs                                                                    
to improve fire safety in rural Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk asked where  the 32 full-time positions                                                                    
were based.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran responded  that the  positions were  primarily                                                                    
based  in Anchorage  but that  there were  some deputy  fire                                                                    
marshals based in Bethel and Fairbanks as well.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:58:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran continued  to slide  7 which  was a  series of                                                                    
graphs  comparing the  governor's FY  22, FY  23, and  FY 24                                                                    
amend request.  The FY  24 budget was  just over  $7 million                                                                    
with a  $300,000 increase over  FY 23, which provided  for a                                                                    
deputy fire marshal in Juneau.  The help provided by the new                                                                    
position  would  promote  faster  investigations  into  fire                                                                    
instances  in  Southeast Alaska  as  well  as help  preserve                                                                    
evidence.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran moved  to slide  8 and  the AST  division. She                                                                    
indicated that it  was the largest division within  DPS by a                                                                    
wide margin  and that 60  percent of the budget  request was                                                                    
intended  for  AST.  The  division  provided  a  variety  of                                                                    
services,  including a  robust drug  and addiction  program,                                                                    
criminal    investigations,   search    and   rescue,    law                                                                    
enforcement, and court services.  The division also included                                                                    
the  AWT division,  which  she referred  to  as a  "division                                                                    
within a division."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran  advanced to slide  9, which reflected  the AST                                                                    
budget  request. She  reiterated  that the  majority of  the                                                                    
supplemental  request was  within the  AST division  and the                                                                    
request totaled $182 million.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  commented  that  the  governor's  amended                                                                    
budget  represented  a  significant increase  for  DPS.  She                                                                    
wondered  what happened  to necessitate  such a  substantial                                                                    
increase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran responded  that there  were decisions  made in                                                                    
the governor's amended budget by  the governor's office. She                                                                    
presumed that the increase related  to the changing price of                                                                    
oil.  The  additional  funding   request  was  important  to                                                                    
prevent  DPS  from  needing to  implement  the  ratification                                                                    
process.  For  example, there  was  a  request for  over  $2                                                                    
million  for  vehicle  costs  and  a  request  that  aligned                                                                    
service authority  for wildlife  troopers as  the division's                                                                    
total authorization  had been exceeded.  Additionally, costs                                                                    
were  rising for  other services,  such as  uniforms, mental                                                                    
health  services, and  costs for  upkeep and  maintenance of                                                                    
equipment. The department compared the  costs from FY 21 and                                                                    
FY 22 and requested the difference.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran  moved  to  slide 10  and  detailed  the  VPSO                                                                    
program.  The program  consisted  of  ten regional  programs                                                                    
managed by  regional tribes  and organizations.  The program                                                                    
included  grant   funds  to  perform   statutorily  required                                                                    
services such as fire  prevention and suppression, emergency                                                                    
medical  support,  search  and rescue,  investigations,  law                                                                    
enforcement, and public safety training.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson commented that  there were 68 VPSOs                                                                    
and  about 230  villages in  the state.  He asked  whether a                                                                    
typical village had law enforcement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  responded that there  were about 68  "boots on                                                                    
the  ground"  VPSOs  stationed at  many  different  villages                                                                    
around  the state.  He thought  that rural  Alaska had  been                                                                    
underserved since  statehood and the  only way to  serve the                                                                    
entire state was to allocate  more resources to rural areas.                                                                    
Many  of  the villages  had  dedicated  troopers, but  other                                                                    
troopers were tasked with serving multiple villages.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked what  the minimum  allowable age                                                                    
was for a VPSO.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  responded 18 years old.  The grantees involved                                                                    
in  the  VPSO  program  worked  closely  together  with  the                                                                    
department to fill  all the positions. The  department had a                                                                    
lot more flexibility due to a  bill that passed in the prior                                                                    
year  and  had sufficient  funds  to  continue to  look  for                                                                    
housing for VPSOs. He emphasized  how critical VPSOs were to                                                                    
DPS and  to the state.  He relayed  that VPSOs did  not only                                                                    
conduct  law  enforcement,  but  assisted  in  firefighting,                                                                    
search  and  rescues,  medical assistance,  and  many  other                                                                    
duties. He  opined that a  village could not  prosper unless                                                                    
the citizens  within the  village felt  safe. He  noted that                                                                    
many  areas  in  the  state  were  not  represented  by  law                                                                    
enforcement and he thought the state should do better.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  commented that  a bright spot  in the                                                                    
public safety mission during the  four years she had been in                                                                    
the  legislature  was  the VPSO  program.  She  thought  the                                                                    
change in  commissioner as well  as the program  being moved                                                                    
from  AST and  into  the  commissioner's office  contributed                                                                    
greatly to  the program's  success. In addition,  the change                                                                    
to the law  that allowed two VPSOs to be  posted in the same                                                                    
community was  a significant  improvement. She  thought that                                                                    
AST was  not designed  to conduct community  policing, while                                                                    
VPSOs were  trained specifically  for the duty.  She thought                                                                    
that  the state  had seemed  to have  taken a  turn and  was                                                                    
moving in the right direction.  She did not think the number                                                                    
of officers  on the ground  was sufficient yet, but  she was                                                                    
pleased  that  the  goal  was  to  build  towards  increased                                                                    
numbers. She thanked Mr. Cockrell for his leadership.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked if  the VPSOs were  armed and                                                                    
what  kind  of  accountability   there  was  for  VPSOs  who                                                                    
exhibited bad behavior.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell responded  that VPSOs  were  not armed.  There                                                                    
were  two VPSOs  that had  been  shot and  killed since  the                                                                    
start  of the  program. There  was statutory  authority that                                                                    
allowed VPSOs  to be  armed, however  the officers  were not                                                                    
currently  armed.  He  deferred  the second  question  to  a                                                                    
colleague.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BARLOW,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                    
SAFETY,  responded  that  any internal  investigations  were                                                                    
conducted  by a  VPSO's  employer and  DPS  assisted in  the                                                                    
effort.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  asked   what  it   meant  to   be                                                                    
investigated by an employer.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barlow replied that VPSOs  were not employees of DPS but                                                                    
were  employees of  the  non-profit  organizations to  which                                                                    
they were assigned.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnson   suggested   that   members   keep   the                                                                    
questioning pertinent to the budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon thanked the department  for its attention to                                                                    
the VPSO program as well  as the coordinators of the program                                                                    
who were  part of the  VPSO working group. He  recalled that                                                                    
there were  around 120  VPSOs many years  ago and  it seemed                                                                    
there  were efforts  to  advance the  program  to a  similar                                                                    
level  once  more.  He  asked   about  Colonel  Joel  Hard's                                                                    
designation as a  retired officer as he  had understood that                                                                    
Colonel Hard was currently working.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell  responded that  Colonel  Hard  was working  a                                                                    
"full-time  part-time" position.  He  decided  to call  upon                                                                    
Colonel Hard  to increase  stability in  the program  as the                                                                    
colonel had  worked closely with  the grantees to  build the                                                                    
program.  The  program  had   "bounced  around"  within  the                                                                    
trooper agency  since its inception and  the instability did                                                                    
not make for a successful  program. He understood the reason                                                                    
for the  constant changes and  did not fault anyone  for it.                                                                    
The  VPSO  program  had been  moved  to  the  commissioner's                                                                    
office and  a new  director had been  appointed in  order to                                                                    
allow Colonel  Hard to return  to retirement. The  new full-                                                                    
time  director  would  allow  for   an  increased  level  of                                                                    
accountability  and stability  within  the  program. If  the                                                                    
program   failed,  it   was   the   responsibility  of   the                                                                    
commissioner  to  fix  the   problems.  The  department  was                                                                    
committed to fostering the success of the program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  asked when the  VPSO program was  under the                                                                    
AST division.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded that the  program had been within the                                                                    
AST  division since  its  inception. He  wanted  to see  the                                                                    
program  within the  commissioner's  office  and noted  that                                                                    
Colonel Hard  had been the director  for about a year  and a                                                                    
half.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  understood  that  the  Office  of                                                                    
Management and  Budget (OMB) had  asked some  departments to                                                                    
eliminate the positions  it could not fill. He  asked if DPS                                                                    
was one of those departments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded that  the previous administration had                                                                    
asked DPS  to eliminate unfilled  positions, but it  was not                                                                    
the case with the current administration.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:15:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran continued  on slide 11. She  explained that the                                                                    
VPSO budget was  increased in the governor's  amend in order                                                                    
to accommodate  ten additional officers  as well  as provide                                                                    
funding  for housing  and offices.  She  explained that  the                                                                    
total request was an additional $20 million.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran  advanced  to  slide  12  which  detailed  the                                                                    
Statewide Support Division. She  explained that the division                                                                    
housed the commissioner's  officer, administrative services,                                                                    
the   crime  lab,   criminal  justice   information  systems                                                                    
program,   and  the   Alaska  Public   Safety  Communication                                                                    
Services Agency.  Much of the  work of the  division reached                                                                    
multiple agencies  and divisions  throughout the  state. She                                                                    
continued to slide 13 and  indicated that the budget request                                                                    
for  the division  was just  over $53  million, which  was a                                                                    
$2.8 million increase over the FY 23 management plan.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran continued  on slide 14 and  detailed the Alaska                                                                    
Police  Standards  Council   (APSC).  The  council  provided                                                                    
training and  ensured compliance and standards  for training                                                                    
for  police,  correctional   officers,  probation  officers,                                                                    
parole  officers, and  municipal  correction offices.  There                                                                    
was  no  significant  budget  request  associated  with  the                                                                    
council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran  moved to slide  19 and offered  information on                                                                    
CDVSA.  Through grants,  the  council supported  prevention,                                                                    
victim  services,  and  rehabilitation programs  across  the                                                                    
state. She advanced  to slide 17 and relayed that  the FY 24                                                                    
request for CDVSA was just under $32 million.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran  continued to slide  18 and detailed  VCCB. She                                                                    
indicated that  the board  facilitated payments  to innocent                                                                    
persons  and victims  of crime  such  as homicide,  assault,                                                                    
arson,  child  abuse,  sexual  assault,  driving  under  the                                                                    
influence, and  robbery. Expenditures could  include funeral                                                                    
costs,  burial  expenses,   lost  wages,  medical  expenses,                                                                    
mental  health costs,  relocation,  safety, security,  crime                                                                    
scene clean up, and travel.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell added  that DCP  inherited VCCB  from the  DOA                                                                    
about a year  and a half ago.  The board was set  up in 1973                                                                    
and had three  employees and 15 claims. In  the present day,                                                                    
the  board  had  three  employees and  received  over  1,000                                                                    
claims. The  department asked  for two  additional positions                                                                    
to  provide critical  support to  victims of  violent crime.                                                                    
The board  provided support  to many  victims who  could not                                                                    
afford  to  support  themselves.   The  ability  to  provide                                                                    
support to  victims was a  valuable asset to the  state. The                                                                    
two new requested positions were  not funded; therefore, the                                                                    
funds would come  from the restorative justice  fund. He was                                                                    
fearful  that the  available funding  for  victims would  be                                                                    
reduced.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:20:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halloran moved to slide 19  and the budget for VCCB. The                                                                    
budget  request was  $4.2 million,  which was  a significant                                                                    
increase and  would help  stabilize the  work of  the board.                                                                    
There was  a large  increase in the  fund source  of "other"                                                                    
which referred  to the restorative justice  funds. The funds                                                                    
would  also  support  two  positions:  a  paralegal  and  an                                                                    
administrative officer.  All salaries  for all  employees on                                                                    
the board  would come from the  restorative justice account,                                                                    
which she  acknowledged was  a volatile  account due  to its                                                                    
dependency on the Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk  asked what  the target number  was for                                                                    
VPSOs and  whether there were any  upcoming partnerships for                                                                    
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  responded that the department  had funding for                                                                    
65  VPSOs but  his target  was  around 120.  He thought  120                                                                    
would be ideal and there appeared  to be a "magic number" at                                                                    
which  all  of  the  trooper  and  VPSO  positions  remained                                                                    
filled.  He  emphasized  the  importance  of  continuing  to                                                                    
provide support  for the program  and support for  the rural                                                                    
areas of the state.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  thought  that it  was  worthwhile  to                                                                    
mention   the  troopers'   two-weeks-on  and   two-weeks-off                                                                    
schedule. He asked if it  was beneficial for new troopers to                                                                    
live in  one area  of the  state for two  weeks and  work in                                                                    
another area  for two  weeks. He wondered  if it  would cost                                                                    
the troopers  money to repeatedly  take two weeks  away from                                                                    
home. He  acknowledged that more experienced  troopers would                                                                    
likely still  be making money  but was concerned  that newer                                                                    
troopers would not  make enough money to justify  the job or                                                                    
the schedule.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded that there  was a financial advantage                                                                    
depending  on  seniority.  The decision  that  DOA  made  to                                                                    
reduce  the   cost-of-living  adjustment  (COLA)   from  100                                                                    
percent to  50 percent  had affected the  ability of  DPS to                                                                    
assign troopers to rural posts.  Troopers within Tier II did                                                                    
not  get  overtime  but  some  other  troopers  did  receive                                                                    
overtime.  He  noted  that troopers  would  be  paying  rent                                                                    
either way but it was  a continuous struggle to get troopers                                                                    
out to  rural Alaska. A  trooper recently left  the division                                                                    
because the  individual did not  want to be posted  in rural                                                                    
Alaska.  Decent housing,  office  space,  and internet  were                                                                    
important elements  in making a  rural post  more desirable;                                                                    
however, the improvements could be expensive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell continued that he  did not think that the state                                                                    
had  ever  grasped  the concept  that  rural  Alaska  needed                                                                    
better  service  and  he  did   not  think  much  procedural                                                                    
progress had been  made since the 1960s.  He emphasized that                                                                    
the amount of victimization in  rural areas of the state was                                                                    
outlandish.  The department  was  focused  on improving  the                                                                    
situation in  rural Alaska and  had increased the  number of                                                                    
crime investigators in  rural areas. He stated  that DPS was                                                                    
committed  to  providing  law enforcement  services  to  all                                                                    
areas  of the  state,  regardless of  zip  code. He  thought                                                                    
conversation  with the  legislature was  important and  that                                                                    
law  makers  should be  appraised  of  the activity  of  law                                                                    
enforcement.  He valued  meetings with  the legislature  and                                                                    
valued learning about the members' concerns.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  appreciated Mr.  Cockrell's  comments                                                                    
and thought that the attitude towards change was promising.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:29:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  about  the supplemental  budget                                                                    
request  from  FY  23.  He  understood that  in  the  FY  23                                                                    
request,  there were  trooper positions  that were  budgeted                                                                    
for and  filled but  were not funded  adequately due  to the                                                                    
added need for  new vehicles and equipment.  The newly hired                                                                    
troopers  were  not  able  to  do  their  jobs  because  the                                                                    
necessary equipment  and support was not  provided. He asked                                                                    
if  the costs  of the  new positions  included the  required                                                                    
equipment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halloran   responded  that   the  positions   had  been                                                                    
allocated  to the  department  without  funding. There  were                                                                    
many costs associated with a  position such as outfitting an                                                                    
employee with a vehicle. She  confirmed that the cost of the                                                                    
vehicle  was  in the  FY  23  supplemental request  and  the                                                                    
department  would   order  the  vehicles  as   soon  as  the                                                                    
supplemental came through.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell was  not certain  he understood  the question.                                                                    
There  were only  three positions  that DPS  decided against                                                                    
filling.  The  unfilled   positions  were  wildlife  trooper                                                                    
positions for  which the department received  no funding. He                                                                    
relayed that 51 troopers were  put through the [AST] academy                                                                    
in the prior year. He  reiterated that he did not understand                                                                    
the  question,  but if  the  question  was whether  DPS  was                                                                    
holding back  on hiring  troopers, the  answer was  that the                                                                    
department was absolutely not holding back.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  clarified  that   he  was  trying  to                                                                    
understand  the process.  He wanted  to ensure  that when  a                                                                    
position was budgeted  for, the entire cost  of the position                                                                    
was included in the budget request.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  responded that  there was  a formula  that DPS                                                                    
relied upon to determine the costs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson noted  that a  few years  ago, the                                                                    
state  received a  grant from  the  U.S. Justice  Department                                                                    
because the national  media was reporting about  the lack of                                                                    
attention to  rural justice  in the state.  He asked  if the                                                                    
federal support and attention resulted  in a permanent shift                                                                    
in rural justice  in Alaska or if the  "fanfare" melted away                                                                    
and resulted in an eventual return to the status quo.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell  responded that  the  money  from the  federal                                                                    
government was  received passively  and DPS did  not receive                                                                    
any money directly. He understood  that the grants were used                                                                    
for building  housing. The department was  always looking at                                                                    
ways to better provide  services which required support from                                                                    
the  administration  and  the  legislature.  The  department                                                                    
never  had  a  consistent  fund  source  and  it  was  still                                                                    
"digging out  of the hole"  that was caused by  the previous                                                                    
administration  due to  40 trooper  positions  and 40  staff                                                                    
positions being  cut. There was  a lot of  positive momentum                                                                    
over the past  few years and it was a  team effort. He added                                                                    
that hiring  more troopers and  VPSOs for  rural communities                                                                    
was a slow process.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   understood  that  there   was  a                                                                    
hierarchy within DPS, but VPSOs  were not peace officers and                                                                    
were  not organized.  If a  VPSO were  to be  killed in  the                                                                    
field, the officer's family would  not get health insurance.                                                                    
He thought  that the coverage  for a VPSO  was substantially                                                                    
different than  that of other  law enforcement  officers. He                                                                    
wondered if  VPSOs should be  given an elevated  position in                                                                    
the hierarchy.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  replied that he saw  VPSOs as the same  as all                                                                    
of the other troopers. The  feedback that the department had                                                                    
received from its grantees was  that troopers were providing                                                                    
the necessary support. He indicated  that the department had                                                                    
been looking  at hiring a  different type of  VPSO, referred                                                                    
to  as  a  Rural  Public   Safety  Officer  (RPSO).  It  was                                                                    
allowable  in  statute to  promote  an  officer who  already                                                                    
lived  in  a   rural  community  to  a   higher  level.  The                                                                    
individual  would then  attend  the trooper  academy and  if                                                                    
they succeeded, the trooper position  in the rural community                                                                    
would be backfilled.  The program faded away  because it was                                                                    
not successful,  however the department thought  the program                                                                    
had potential  for the VPSO  program. He explained  that DPS                                                                    
was  attempting to  include intent  language  in its  budget                                                                    
request  to   ensure  the  legality   of  the   process.  If                                                                    
successful, the individuals could  work around the state, be                                                                    
armed, and  supervise VPSOs. The individuals  would be above                                                                    
sergeant level  and would  have a  higher level  of training                                                                    
and responsibility. The department  was looking at a variety                                                                    
of avenues,  including hiring  a VPSO at  a lower  level and                                                                    
recruiting individuals who had  recently graduated from high                                                                    
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:38:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe thanked  the  presenters for  their                                                                    
time,  particularly  during  the subcommittee  process.  She                                                                    
wanted to  ensure that the  committee knew that there  was a                                                                    
substantial budget request  for improved information systems                                                                    
due to  the costs of  implementing the body  camera program.                                                                    
She was  supportive of the  funding for the cameras  and the                                                                    
informational  systems that  were  required  to support  the                                                                    
program. She asked for Mr.  Cockrell to speak on the vacancy                                                                    
rate of the wildlife troopers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell  noted it  had changed since  the last  time he                                                                    
and Representative  Coulombe had  last spoken and  there was                                                                    
an updated number.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Halloran  responded   that  the   Legislative  Finance                                                                    
Division  (LFD) pulled  the vacancy  numbers for  the entire                                                                    
component, which  she would share. For  the AST detachments,                                                                    
which was  where the majority  of the troopers  resided, the                                                                    
vacancy rate  was 11  percent. The  wildlife troopers  had a                                                                    
vacancy rate of 10 percent.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:40:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin commented  that Mr.  Cockrell offered                                                                    
her an encouraging view of  the future in an earlier meeting                                                                    
in her office.  She understood that Mr.  Cockrell would like                                                                    
to double VPSO numbers and  more than double trooper numbers                                                                    
to  ensure that  every Alaskan  had  access to  a VPSO.  She                                                                    
asked  about  the  requested   addition  of  five  full-time                                                                    
permanent positions and wondered if more should be added.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell responded  that the  department had  increased                                                                    
trooper  numbers  but had  not  yet  reached its  goal.  The                                                                    
department   was  currently   authorized  for   328  trooper                                                                    
positions and  his goal was  to get trooper numbers  up 415.                                                                    
The department  was beginning an  academy at the end  of the                                                                    
month and he was not certain  of the number of recruits yet,                                                                    
but he reported  that the academy numbers in  the prior year                                                                    
were promising.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if there were  certain areas of                                                                    
Alaska  that were  more challenging  for which  to find  law                                                                    
enforcement  coverage. She  had heard  about a  village near                                                                    
the border  of Canada  with no  law enforcement  coverage in                                                                    
which the citizens  would follow every car  that entered the                                                                    
village  to   determine  whether  the  visitors   were  drug                                                                    
dealers.   She  asked   how   equal   distribution  of   law                                                                    
enforcement coverage was determined.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Cockrell responded  that the  most important  component                                                                    
was  to  look at  the  crime  rates  in  a given  area.  For                                                                    
example, the  YukonKuskokwim  Delta (YK Delta)  still needed                                                                    
additional troopers  and VPSOs.  There were over  300 sexual                                                                    
assaults in the YK Delta in  the prior year which was by far                                                                    
the  highest  number  apart from  Anchorage.  Public  safety                                                                    
officers in the villages north  of Fairbanks had reported to                                                                    
him that they were struggling  with drugs in the communities                                                                    
and had purchased a drug dog  for the VPSOs. Meth was a huge                                                                    
problem in the area. He  noted that the situation in Toguiak                                                                    
was the  same and  it was  an area  of concern.  Despite its                                                                    
problems,  he thought  that Alaska  was  still the  greatest                                                                    
state  in the  nation and  had the  capacity for  incredible                                                                    
success.  He  thought troopers  were  set  apart from  other                                                                    
public  safety  agencies because  of  the  positive way  the                                                                    
troopers treated  the citizens of  the state. He  added that                                                                    
there  were  many  other  duties  for  which  troopers  were                                                                    
responsible,  such as  the registering  sex offenders  which                                                                    
was  a difficult  position  to  fill. He  was  proud of  the                                                                    
troopers and  thought they had  significant responsibilities                                                                    
beyond  law enforcement.  The uniform  held prestige  in the                                                                    
state and he was proud to wear it.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:47:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  commended  the  presenters  for                                                                    
taking on  a difficult  job. He  was glad  to hear  that Mr.                                                                    
Cockrell  had pride  in the  trooper uniform.  He asked  how                                                                    
many communities  in the  state were slated  to have  a VPSO                                                                    
presence.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded that he  did not have an exact number                                                                    
with him.  However, most communities  he had  visited either                                                                    
wanted to be assigned a trooper  or a VPSO offer. He offered                                                                    
to follow up with the total number of communities served.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked for confirmation  that Mr.                                                                    
Cockrell did not have a total number of communities served.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Cockrell responded  that if the department  could hire a                                                                    
trooper or VPSO, most communities  would accept the officer.                                                                    
He relayed  that there were  329 [228] recognized  tribes in                                                                    
the state and most wanted  some form of law enforcement. The                                                                    
program continued  to grow. He  had a future goal  to assign                                                                    
VPSOs to  international airports in  order to crack  down on                                                                    
sex trafficking.  He thought airports could  be a vulnerable                                                                    
environment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon    echoed   Representative   Tomaszewski's                                                                    
comments and appreciated the work  of the presenters. In the                                                                    
prior year,  when SB 81  was signed  into law it  gave VPSOs                                                                    
higher standing, increased pay,  and better housing options.                                                                    
He thanked  Mr. Cockrell  for meeting  with him  and Senator                                                                    
Lyman  Hoffman  regarding  the  issue  of  gill  netters  in                                                                    
Bristol Bay. He reiterated  his gratitude for Mr. Cockrell's                                                                    
help on the issues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:51:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  thanked the troopers  for their  work. She                                                                    
understood that  the troopers  were both  the first  line of                                                                    
defense for crimes and the  first social service responders.                                                                    
She recognized that the troopers were trained at a higher                                                                       
level than any other law enforcement agency in the country.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the agenda for the following                                                                          
day's meeting.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB 39 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB 41 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:54:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:54 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Department of Public Safety Overview - H Finance 2 21 2023.pdf HFIN 2/21/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39
DPS ObjectivesHFIN Overview 022123.pdf HFIN 2/21/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39
HFIN Committee DPS FY2024 Budget Overview (2.21.23) Follow Up.pdf HFIN 2/21/2023 1:30:00 PM